If You Were Anti the Asifa, Consider This

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By now, you have likely heard about the Internet Asifa, the large gathering of Orthodox Jews at Citi Field a few weeks ago to address the dangers of the Internet.  The gathering included some harsh and strict proclamations, such as forbidding Internet in the home, stating that it is only permissible to use the web for work purposes.

Announcements of the Asifa were greeted with great skepticism, cynicism and suspicion by those outside of Charedi, right wing circles.  Indeed, the Asifa became the subject of many jokes such as,  “the Asifa is the only time Citi Field will sell out this season,” or “did you hear about the Amshinover Chassidim, they got to the Asifa in time for the Mets vs. Padres game,” or “the first 10,000 fans to enter the stadium get a free Gadol Ha’Dor bobble-head doll.”

The Asifa also attracted a great deal of criticism, much of it I believe warranted.  The organizers called themselves Ichud Ha’Kehillos and claimed that part of the goal of the event was to promote great achdus, unity, among the Jewish people.  They emphasized that this event would reflect the great diversity of Torah Jews, but in fact, it only represented a specific slice of Orthodoxy as some groups of Chassidim didn’t join and certainly Yeshiva University’s Roshei Yeshiva and Poskim were not invited to participate.

Furthermore, some were critical of the fact that the entire gathering was designated for men only.  If the Internet truly threatens the sanctity of the home, shouldn’t women, the guardians of the home, be in attendance in an event whose purpose is to strengthen our resistance to the Internet’s dangers?

The Satmar Rebbe and Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky, interestingly, shared another concern.  The Torah observant community is indeed diverse and reflects different world outlooks, practices, community customs and norms.  How could one event possibly speak to or lay down guidelines for a Chasid from Williamsburg, a Yeshiva Bochur from Lakewood, a Businessman from the Upper West Side and a Doctor from Teaneck?   Each community needs to adopt it’s own approach to this issue and in the case of the Internet, one size simply does not fit all.

There are many other points of criticism, but I am not writing this column to sling arrows or shoot down the Asifa.  Quite the contrary, no matter what you thought of it, there are still so many things to admire and learn from the community that organized and attended it and that is what I would like to share with you.

Firstly, it is simply remarkable how many people attended and that is not disputable.  Not only did Citi Field which holds over 40,000 people sell out, the organizers then rented Arthur Ashe Stadium next door which has the capacity for another 22,000 people. I wonder if the leaders of Modern Orthodoxy announced a monumental gathering in NY to rally for Israel, reflect on the dangers of the modern world, or any other purpose, how many people would attend?  Would our Modern Orthodox community show up with over 60,000 strong for almost any reason these days?

You may say, it is simple, Chareidim believe in Da’as Torah and the importance of being obedient to the leading Rabbis of the generation. Their Rabbis said to attend and the people responded. The Modern Orthodox community, however, is trained to think for themselves, practice autonomy and be independently minded.   While I agree with the explanation, I wonder if perhaps our community would benefit from a little more admiration, respect and deference to the words and advice of our Modern Orthodox community’s greatest leaders and sages.

Secondly, we clearly disagree and reject the Asifa’s conclusion, that the Internet is categorically evil and has no place in our lives unless absolutely necessary for business.  I see the Intenet like the telephone or electricity; it has the potential for great harm or for great good.   How many divrei Torah have been downloaded, listened to or watched on the web, for example?

Yet, the Asifa is correct in raising the grave dangers an unfiltered and unrestrained use of the Internet presents.  There is no doubt that the access to everything and anything that the Internet provides is a great seductive force in the lives of young people and adults alike.  We should admire and indeed emulate the Asifa’s goal of encouraging people to struggle with maintaining sanctity in their homes and their lives.

Rejecting the Asifa’s solution should not mean dismissing the undeniable problem the Asifa raises – how to properly adopt technology into our lives in a meaningful, safe and productive way.

I hope that future Asifas will indeed include all segments of Klal Yisroel and will be designed to speak to serious Torah Jews, no matter what community they belong to.  In the meantime, we would do a great service to ourselves if rather than cynically reject the Asifa or it’s organizers, we seek to extract that which we can admire from this event and indeed emulate the idea of gathering en masse, to grow and enrich our lives in meaningful ways.

 

Rabbi Efrem Goldberg is the Senior Rabbi of the Boca Raton Synagogue (BRS) in Boca Raton, Florida. He serves as Co-Chair of the Orthodox Rabbinical Board’s Va’ad Ha’Kashrus, as Director of the Rabbinical Council of America’s South Florida Regional Beis Din for Conversion, and as Posek of the Boca Raton Mikvah.

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  • A. R.

    Has anyone picked up where the asifa left off and provided guidaance or help on locating and installing practical internet filters?

    • Judah

      Yes. Which city are you in?

      Lakewood, Brooklyn and soon Monsey have “TAG” offices for this reason.

    • monsey

      Yes they have, there was an event this apst Sunday in Flatbush and I see one advertised for this Sunday in Far Rockaway. At the Flatbush event they spoke about different types of filtering, and how they can be installed on PC’s and smart phones.

    • m cohen

      see
      http://venishmartem.com/ for a very good listing

    • Tentsitter

      literature was given out which included practical solutions (at citifield, but not at arthur ashe, which i attended). Found the following number from an article on the web: TAG (Technology Awareness Group)
      hotline – (267)295-1954 – which answers questions regarding
      technology, both practical and chinuch related.I received a pdf copy
      of this literature from http://www.businesshalacha.com
      which I would be happy to forward to you or anyone interested if you email me:
      tentsitter@gmail.com (Note: Though I printed it on 8.5×11 paper, the footnotes came out too small and turned into incomprehensible scrawl. But the main text is legible.)

    • Tentsitter

      hotline to Technology Awareness Group (267)295-1954

    • Yaakov

      link to article – http://baltimorejewishlife.com/news/news-detail.php?SECTION_ID=1&ARTICLE_ID=25277 – contains phone number to Technology Awareness Group

  • MFR

    Torah observance, over-simplified: A Jewish person, in order to bring holiness into his/her life & the world recognizes and acts in the following manner: A Jew never can do whatever he/she wants whenever and wherever. We make separations & distinctions (forbidden & acceptable) in all facets of our physical lives: mixtures of foods, times to be intimate, setting aside certain times & places to be sanctified, how to conduct business, etc.
    How much of the time does the individual need to be directed by leadership? How much of the time do individuals internalize proper conduct and follow a path of holiness because they can make these choices without the external “new rules”, such as excluding women for fear of… what? A person may not have internalized the halachic way he/she was brought up?
    One of the messages of the Asifa was clearly about restraint with usage of internet (who remembers all of the Loshon Hora campaigns of 40 years ago regarding telephone usage a time when landlines had a person tethered to the kitchen wall)?
    So, it follows that, just as Rabbi Goldberg stated, there is a way to use/abuse all forms of inventions that come our way.
    Rabbi Goldberg poses a fabulous question in the article regarding the ability the Modern Orthodox sector emulating the en masse gatherings.
    Rabbi Goldberg does an excellent job of analyzing the difference btween the two groups and their varying ratios of deference to the Rabbinic leadership.

  • Charnie Feldman

    According to what I read in another publication, the following day 150 Rosh Yeshivas and other Rebbeim met together and actually discussed realistic solutions. I’m surprised that this article did not address the issue that the Asifa was promoted as an event to offer solutions (“can’t live with it, can’t live without it” said a lot of the advance publicity).

  • David Mescheloff

    Indeed, Rav Goldberg, the dangers are serious and need to be addressed. I hope that guidelines in preparation by the RCA will prove meaningful, practical, and helpful in maintaining the sanctity of individuals, as well as that of our families, our communities and our people. Until the publication of the guide, anticipated within the next half year, permit me to add one point to those you articulated so well. The most effective filtering will have to be learned and internalized, both individually and on the group level. It seems there are widely known internet links, that can be reached on filtered lines, which then allow free access to any and every site, no matter how antithetical to sanctity it may be. Indeed, the story has it in Israel that one rabbi who was approached by a filter marketer called in his teen-age son, who found a way around the filter within minutes. Again, the most effective filters will have to be internal ones. And we will have to face the fact that in a world in which G-d has granted us free will, there is no “filter” that seals every person hermetically from temptation. Thus we will also have to deal realistically with helping people with teshuva after falling prey to the yetzer hara.

  • Tentsitter

    re “They emphasized that this event would reflect the great diversity of
    Torah Jews, but in fact, it only represented a specific slice of
    Orthodoxy as some groups of Chassidim didn’t join and certainly Yeshiva
    University’s Roshei Yeshiva and Poskim were not invited to participate.” If a certain group chose not to come, this cannot be listed as a complaint against the organizers. I would agree that YU should have been invited, despite any disagreements that may exist between them and the “chareidim”. The purpose of the event was to show a massive show of unity – politics and fractionalization should have not had any place here.

    Also, I don’t think that the event’s conclusion is that internet is inherently evil. However, it does have real dangers. One point raised at the asifa: You may ask what do these rabbis know about the internet. They don’t use it – they don’t understand what it is. And you’d be right. I’m sure there are many people here who know and understand much more about the internet than I do. But I’ll tell you what I do know about. I know all the people its use has caused damage to – all the families it has cause pain and hardship to. That’s what I know about.

    If the RCA disagrees with the guidelines set up, they could and should come up with their own set of guidelines. But the danger is real, and needs to be addressed. And that was the main point of the asifa.
    The danger and problem is real. Some of the poskim want to compare it to the prohibition of yichud: the proscription against a man and lady (who aren’t family) being alone together. According to Torah law, there is nothing wrong with this. Nevertheless, the Rabbis forbade it.

    One may ask: why? The man and woman should exercise self-control and not get into trouble. And, most of the time, they would be correct – but not all the time. There are times when the animalistic inclinations inside a person will override his intellect and cause him to do things that he knows to be wrong. The foibles and weakness of human nature being what it is, the Sages saw the need to build a fence around the Torah and establish the laws of yichud.

    There is a view that the internet and its allure is similar. It is forbidden to be alone with it in the same way.

    My personal problem with the statement that one should never have internet in the house is if someone works from his house. The need to have internet access for his livelihood is present, even though it is in his house. What then?

    But the main theme of the asifa was that the danger is present and real – that it affects us in our day-to-day lives – and, it has a deleterious affect on us as Jews. The shmutz, the loshon hora, the foul language and just plain negative influence, and the endless supply of idle chatter. It is dangerous to the adults accessing the internet, and especially to the children who have access to it.

    If the RCA disagrees with the guidelines established at the asifa, then they need to set up their own guidelines. But guidelines need to be established, publicized, and, to whatever extent possible, enforced by Jews everywhere, of every persuasion.

  • Mike Benav

    There should be standards set for what is required in order to claim that an event represents the full range of Torah Jews. Certain organizations routinely claim to be inclusive but in reality are plainly not open to fairly reflecting the authentic diversity of Torah Jews. Such misrepresentation is not appropriate, and standards are necessary to prevent this kind of monopolization of legitimacy.

  • Tentsitter

    I’m disturbed by the implications of some of Rabbi Goldberger’s comments. Particularly, “The Modern Orthodox community, however, is trained to think for themselves, practice autonomy and be independently minded.” Where and when does this pervasive training course take place that enables one community in toto to be superior in their cogitative skills over another by their mere membership? This comment would seem to be incongruous to the standards of achdus that the Rabbi purportedly espouses.

    • Achdus

      I agree. I find the Rabbis comment about thinking for themselves a bit offensive . In fact there are those who argue that some modern O. thinking has led some of them to disregard rabbiical gudance and espose positions which fall outside Orthodoxy, Many of the criticism of the Asifareflected an anti-charedei agenda in general. The fact that some rabbis didn’t get an invitation didn’t exclude them. The Asifa was open to everyone. While a joint standard may have been difficult I think one might have been arrived at but would have been difficult give the streams of Orthodoxy. Not everyone at the Asifa that the internet was evil. This is a distortion,. Some said it had the potential for great evil which no honest person would disagree with.

      • Just sayin’

        “The Asifa was open to everyone.”
        Well, except half the population, that is.

      • Hope to clarify

        I believe what R’ Goldberg ment was simply that using your own knowledge is more stressed in modern o. . Also, what he meant by not ‘invited’ was he Rabbanim at the Asifa weren’t interested in Machloches so those Rabbanim who didn’t agree with their view were simply not (actively) asked to come. Not as an offense. Imagine trying to invite a democrat to a rebublican meeting (l’havdil) meaning they don’t agree so why bring conflict when it can easily be avioded and I think those M.O. Rabbis understood that.

  • efremgoldberg

    I shared an indisputable observation. Chareidim emphasize da’as Torah and submitting your independence to the authority of Gedolim. Rabbi Soloveitchik, for example, on the other hand, was famous for encouraging his students to think for themselves and come to their own conclusions, obviously within halacha and the mesorah.

    My point was not superiority at all. In fact, i wrote that we would do well to think a little less for ourselves and subscribe more to the directives of our outstanding leaders.
    Efrem Goldberg

  • A Concerned Jew

    You write about how there’s an opinion that one can follow his own Daas Torah. I mean following Daas Torah vs. following your own Daas Torah is not optional or debatable. And discussing this, you might as well have started your own religion. Following Daas Torah is not feature within Judaism nor does it have anything to do with what sect you belong to… rather a very core concept iterated by Chazal in many places in Shas.

    And if you think about it, if everyone followed their own “Daas Torah” in a couple of generations there would be nothing left to Judaism.

    After making very radical remarks about the Asifa, you suddenly turn 360 degrees and become very concerned about the woman. Get this: this Asifa was about Tznius and thus it would go against its nature to bring woman. As for your heartfelt concern that the woman of Klal Yisroel would miss something as important as this, the organizers of the Asifa had the same concern. That is why they organized designated locations in local neighborhoods so that woman can partake in this remarkable Kidush Hashem.

    I also don’t know if you realize that in the same article where you mention how
    everyone can follow their own Daas Torah, you yourself are showing respect to
    the fact that the Chareidim respect their Rabbis…and how in other sects such
    an Asifa might not have drawn enough attention…I mean don’t you realize that
    you have answered your own question??? If everyone has their own Daas Torah,
    why follow the Rabbis?

    I do agree with you though that it is not nice to exclude sects of Klal Yisroel
    and not invite them. I sincerely share your concern and wish we were truly
    united. One question I got for you though: had you been invited, would that
    have changed your opinion on the matter? I mean based on this article I
    wouldn’t even think that you would want to be invited.

    Sincerely yours,
    A Concerned Jew

  • AmIinbitulzone?

    FYI, I feel an important issue was overlooked. I don’t know if enough emphasis was placed on the very disturbing addictive and time-wasting issues. How many times am I sent a you-tube or other video or article to read (“MUST SEE”) and then I just move on to the next suggestion, and on, and on, until I realize with bitterness how much valuable time I wasted!! Our time is limited and “al karchacha ata atid leeten din v’cheshbon lifnay melech malchay ham’lachim…” (Avot 4:29), and that applies to all Jews – no matter what hat one wears.