{"id":28269,"date":"2012-07-25T22:50:57","date_gmt":"2012-07-25T22:50:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/?p=28269"},"modified":"2017-01-27T05:32:15","modified_gmt":"2017-01-27T10:32:15","slug":"can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/","title":{"rendered":"Can Orthodox Women Work?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn&#8217;t be allowed to work,&#8221; Rachel explained to me over the phone.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Really?&#8221; I responded. &#8220;Which commandment in the Torah states, &#8216;Thou shall not work if you&#8217;re a woman&#8217;?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rachel, of course,\u00a0had no source to back up her claim because there<em>\u00a0is<\/em>\u00a0no prohibition in Jewish law for a woman to work. A man is commanded to support his family, but for a woman &#8211; there is a choice. The ironic thing is that in my Conservative family growing up, my mother never worked, mostly because my non-religious, but traditionally-minded (read, slightly\u00a0chauvinistic) father didn&#8217;t want her to. (Fear not! Since my father &#8211; like the rest of my family &#8211; became Orthodox, he has become much more sensitive to women&#8217;s issues!)<\/p>\n<p>Growing up in a single-income home made me not so career-oriented myself. Ivy League college was a goal. THAT was something my parents stressed, so that was something I worked towards. But graduate school or a fancy career afterwards was never particularly on my radar, so much so that at one point in high school, I dreamed of getting into Harvard and then getting straight Cs. Why? Because it was the end of the line in my mind.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/iStock_000018642257Small.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-post-28269 wp-image-28278\" title=\"Woman working in home office\" src=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/iStock_000018642257Small-300x199.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"199\" \/><\/a>Many of the Orthodox women I know &#8211; who were raised religious &#8211; are more career-oriented that I ever\u00a0was. Probably because they were getting a different message growing up than I did.\u00a0Another point of irony: My husband who was not only raised Orthodox, but Hasidic even, told me after we were married that he had always assumed he&#8217;d marry some big career woman &#8211; like a doctor or lawyer type. And little old, formerly bacon-eating me never DREAMED of going down such a road!<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if there was ever a period in Jewish history (like secular history) that women didn&#8217;t work outside the home, but even as far back as the Bible, we see King Solomon, who speaks of the ideal woman &#8211; the &#8220;woman of valor&#8221; &#8211; as a businesswoman! &#8220;She plans for a field, and buys it. With the fruit of her hands she plants a vineyard&#8230;She knows that her merchandise is good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>How\u00a0prevalent\u00a0are working women in the Orthodox world nowadays? I&#8217;d venture to say that the majority of Orthodox women &#8211; from across the spectrum of Orthodoxy &#8211; have jobs beyond their homes and families. In many cases, it&#8217;s an economic necessity. In lots of cases, it&#8217;s a matter of a woman wanting to contribute her talents to the world and have an outlet outside of her kids. The role of the woman as the spiritual foundation of the home still exists &#8211; but some women want, need (or both) to work outside of the home as well.<\/p>\n<p>In the ultra-Orthodox (<em>yeshivish<\/em>\/Lithuanian) circles, where in many households the couple has decided that the husband will learn Torah full-time, the woman is the sole bread winner. This set up only works if the woman is happy with the arrangement. I&#8217;m sure there are instances where women are the sole bread winners, but are not happy about their situation, but according to the women&#8217;s marriage contract (<em>ketuba<\/em>)\u00a0a husband must support his wife and family unless\u00a0<em>she<\/em>\u00a0lets him off the hook.<\/p>\n<p>The most common careers are probably in areas like education and therapies (OT and PT) because of the amount of schooling required and the flexibility of the schedules. But there are many Orthodox women who have less &#8220;typical&#8221; careers too. I opened the question up to <em>Jew in the City<\/em> fans on Facebook, to see what interesting careers Orthodox women they knew had, and I was overwhelmed by the diversity and success of women in fields including:\u00a0chemists, nuclear physicists, doctors, dentists, lawyers (including partners in big firms), psychologists, artists, musicians, journalists, magazine editors, best-selling authors, clothing designers, actuaries, sex therapists, chefs, CEO&#8217;s,\u00a0veterinarians, music producers, a head of a law school, engineers, marketing professionals, judges, college professors, television reporters, supreme court clerks, fire fighters, TV producers, radio show hosts, Knesset members, and even a captain in the U.S. army!<\/p>\n<p>Someone noted that most women must have gotten into these atypical careers before they became observant. Of course, there is some truth to that. But that&#8217;s not a women-only\u00a0phenomenon. Nevertheless, higher education is being valued more and more within the Orthodox world, so many people who were born and raised religious have opportunities for exciting careers. The first group to embrace secular knowledge was Modern Orthodoxy &#8211; who as part of the Yeshiva University (YU) community &#8211; believe in the concept of &#8220;<em>Torah\u00a0<\/em><i>UMadda<\/i>&#8221; &#8211; Torah with secular knowledge, or in other words, one&#8217;s knowledge of Torah can be enhanced with (kosher forms of) knowledge and exposure to the secular world.<\/p>\n<p>There is another camp, to the right of YU, who is not as keen on secular knowledge for the sake of enhancing one&#8217;s Torah experience, but recognizes that higher education is necessary in order to secure a\u00a0<em>parnassa<\/em>\u00a0(livelihood). This camp believes in the principle of\u00a0<em>&#8220;Torah eem Derech Eretz<\/em>,&#8221; based on Rav Shimshon Raphael Hirsch&#8217;s teaching that Torah needs to be balanced with a livelihood.<\/p>\n<p>There are then groups to the right of this camp that in theory do not believe in higher education, so most of the community members have jobs in businesses or areas that require vocational training rather than academic degrees; but nevertheless, exceptions to the rule exist, as hasidic attorneys and doctors are out there and even some hasidim with multiple PhDs! (There is apparently a Satmar woman, married to the head of a yeshiva who has two PhDs, seven kids, and is the chairman of a university department!)<\/p>\n<p>How do these Orthodox career women &#8220;do it all&#8221; with generally larger families than non-Orthodox women and weekly preparation for\u00a0Shabbat? They work hard. They recognize that life is a struggle. There&#8217;s no simple answer. But what should be known is that although people often associate religious Judaism as a thing that holds you back &#8211; especially if you&#8217;re a woman &#8211; that phenomenon of the working mother trying to figure out how to &#8220;have it all&#8221; is all over the place &#8211; including the Orthodox world.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em><strong>Allison Josephs<\/strong>\u00a0is the founder and director of\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewinthecity.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">JewintheCity.com<\/a>\u00a0which breaks down stereotypes about Orthodox Jews and offers and humorous, meaningful look into Orthodox Judaism through the power of new media.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":790,"featured_media":55195,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_cloudinary_featured_overwrite":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[85],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-28269","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-inspiration"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"&quot;I&#039;d like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn&#039;t be allowed to work,&quot; Rachel explained to me.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"&quot;I&#039;d like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn&#039;t be allowed to work,&quot; Rachel explained to me.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"OU Life\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2012-07-25T22:50:57+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2017-01-27T10:32:15+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1254\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"836\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Allison Josephs\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Allison Josephs\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"5 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/\",\"name\":\"Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg\",\"datePublished\":\"2012-07-25T22:50:57+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2017-01-27T10:32:15+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/f0ae474c177ed214c0efe78e22813f0f\"},\"description\":\"\\\"I'd like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn't be allowed to work,\\\" Rachel explained to me.\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg\",\"width\":1254,\"height\":836,\"caption\":\"Woman working in home office smiling at camera\"},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/\",\"name\":\"OU Life\",\"description\":\"Everyday Jewish Living\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/f0ae474c177ed214c0efe78e22813f0f\",\"name\":\"Allison Josephs\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/allison@josephs.me_avatar-96x96.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/allison@josephs.me_avatar-96x96.png\",\"caption\":\"Allison Josephs\"},\"description\":\"Allison Josephs has been involved in the field of Jewish Outreach for over a dozen years, teaching and lecturing, working at Partners in Torah, Sinai Retreats, and NCSY, and is the spiritual mentor to actress Mayim Bialik. She was named one of NJOP's Top Ten Jewish Influencers in 2012. Allison has been interviewed on television and radio, including programs such as \\\"What Not To Wear\\\" and NPR; her articles have appeared in numerous publications including the newly released anthology Like Water on a Rock, The Washington Times, The Jewish Press, and World Jewish Digest. She has also written articles and directed and produced videos for Aish.com and lectures around the country and on WebYeshiva. She received her Bachelor in Arts from Columbia University in Philosophy and lives with her husband and four children minutes from the George Washington Bridge. Allison's site is Allison Josephs is the founder and director of JewintheCity.com .\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/author\/allisonjosephs-me\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life","description":"\"I'd like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn't be allowed to work,\" Rachel explained to me.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life","og_description":"\"I'd like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn't be allowed to work,\" Rachel explained to me.","og_url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/","og_site_name":"OU Life","article_published_time":"2012-07-25T22:50:57+00:00","article_modified_time":"2017-01-27T10:32:15+00:00","og_image":[{"width":1254,"height":836,"url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg","type":"image\/jpeg"}],"author":"Allison Josephs","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Allison Josephs","Est. reading time":"5 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/","url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/","name":"Can Orthodox Women Work? - OU Life","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg","datePublished":"2012-07-25T22:50:57+00:00","dateModified":"2017-01-27T10:32:15+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/f0ae474c177ed214c0efe78e22813f0f"},"description":"\"I'd like to be more religious, but having a career is very important to me. If I became Orthodox, I wouldn't be allowed to work,\" Rachel explained to me.","inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/inspiration\/can-orthodox-jewish-women-work-jew-city-allison-josephs\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/Woman-Working-at-Computer.jpg","width":1254,"height":836,"caption":"Woman working in home office smiling at camera"},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#website","url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/","name":"OU Life","description":"Everyday Jewish Living","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/f0ae474c177ed214c0efe78e22813f0f","name":"Allison Josephs","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/allison@josephs.me_avatar-96x96.png","contentUrl":"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/files\/allison@josephs.me_avatar-96x96.png","caption":"Allison Josephs"},"description":"Allison Josephs has been involved in the field of Jewish Outreach for over a dozen years, teaching and lecturing, working at Partners in Torah, Sinai Retreats, and NCSY, and is the spiritual mentor to actress Mayim Bialik. She was named one of NJOP's Top Ten Jewish Influencers in 2012. Allison has been interviewed on television and radio, including programs such as \"What Not To Wear\" and NPR; her articles have appeared in numerous publications including the newly released anthology Like Water on a Rock, The Washington Times, The Jewish Press, and World Jewish Digest. She has also written articles and directed and produced videos for Aish.com and lectures around the country and on WebYeshiva. She received her Bachelor in Arts from Columbia University in Philosophy and lives with her husband and four children minutes from the George Washington Bridge. Allison's site is Allison Josephs is the founder and director of JewintheCity.com .","url":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/author\/allisonjosephs-me\/"}]}},"acf":[],"brizy_media":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28269","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/790"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=28269"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28269\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":55198,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28269\/revisions\/55198"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/55195"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=28269"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=28269"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=28269"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}