{"id":12927,"date":"2009-11-24T04:42:42","date_gmt":"2009-11-24T04:42:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/production.ou.org\/life\/other\/masechet_bava_batra_98a104b\/"},"modified":"2016-11-29T05:50:33","modified_gmt":"2016-11-29T10:50:33","slug":"masechet_bava_batra_98a104b","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/torah\/masechet_bava_batra_98a104b\/","title":{"rendered":"Masechet Bava Batra 98a-104b"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>The Coming Week&#8217;s Daf Yomi by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This essay is based upon the insights and chidushim (original ideas) of Talmudic scholar Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, as published in the Hebrew version of the Steinsaltz Edition of the Talmud.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 98a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>What responsibility does a seller have to guarantee his product after the buyer has taken possession of it?<\/p>\n<p>According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=1773\">97b<\/a>) if someone sells wine to his friend and it becomes vinegar, he is not responsible for it. The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/r.htm#rishon\">rishonim<\/a><\/em> point out that we are dealing with a case where we are certain that the product was wine at the time of the sale, which puts the onus of responsibility on the buyer, since the wine &#8220;went bad&#8221; after he already owned it, allowing the seller to argue that it was the buyer&#8217;s casks that caused the problem.<\/p>\n<p>Our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> quotes Rabbi Yosi b&#8217;Rabbi Chanina who rules that the case of the Mishnah is only when the wine has been moved into the casks of the purchaser. If, however, it remained in the casks of the seller, then the buyer can demand that the seller take back his casks together with the wine, or, more correctly, the vinegar, and return his money. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=420&amp;letter=A\">Ra&#8217;avad<\/a> explains Rabbi Yose&#8217;s position as based on his belief that good wine will not turn to vinegar under ordinary circumstances, so if this wine did become vinegar it is an indication that there was something wrong with it from the very beginning, which allows the buyer to insist on a refund.<\/p>\n<p>The Gemara points out that Rabbi Chiya bar Yosef disagrees with this ruling. Based on a passage in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/treiasar\/chavakuk.htm\">Habakuk<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt2002.htm#5\">2:5<\/a>) that describes the &#8220;treachery&#8221; of wine that rebels against a haughty person, he believes that wine spoiling is essentially a rebuke to the owner of the wine &#8211; it is his &#8220;bad luck&#8221; and therefore, his loss. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=179&amp;letter=S\">Rashbam<\/a> explains that this is a type of <em>middah ke-neged middah<\/em> &#8211; the person gets what he deserves &#8211; in the sense that someone who tries to show off qualities that he does not have is punished by his wine &#8211; that appears to have the qualities of fine wine, but really is vinegar.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 99a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> discusses the <em>aron<\/em> &#8211; the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Ark_of_the_Covenant\">Ark of the Covenant<\/a> that stood in the Holy of Holies &#8211; together with the <em>keruvim<\/em> &#8211; the cherubs &#8211; that stood on its cover.<\/p>\n<p>According to Rabbi Levi quoting <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=357&amp;letter=J\">Rabbi Yochanan<\/a>, the <em>aron<\/em> and the <em>keruvim<\/em> did not take up any space. In support of this teaching, the Gemara quotes a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=247&amp;letter=B&amp;search=baraita\">baraita<\/a><\/em> that describes how the bodies of the <em>keruvim<\/em> took up no space, since the passage in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sefer\">Sefer<\/a><\/em> <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=226&amp;letter=K\">Melakhim<\/a><\/em> <em>(I Melakhim<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt09a06.htm#24\">6:24<\/a>) describes only the size of the wings, but not of the <em>keruvim<\/em> themselves.<\/p>\n<p>The idea that is expressed by these teachings is that the <em>aron<\/em> and <em>keruvim<\/em> are not truly of this world &#8211; they are purely spiritual objects that cannot be measured by their physical existence; indeed, they do not take up any space in our physical world.<\/p>\n<p>In describing how the <em>keruvim<\/em> stood, Rabbi Yochanan and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=215&amp;letter=E\">Rabbi Eliezer<\/a> disagreed. One taught that the two <em>keruvim<\/em> faced one another, the other claimed that they faced the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#beithamikdash\">Temple<\/a>. The Gemara points out that each of these positions has textual support &#8211; the <em>pasuk<\/em> in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#shemot\">Shemot<\/a><\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt0225.htm#20\">25:20<\/a>) says that they faced each other, while in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=494&amp;letter=C&amp;search=chronicles\">Divrei HaYamim<\/a><\/em> <em>(II Divrei HaYamim<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt25b03.htm#13\">3:13<\/a>) it says that they faced the Temple &#8211; and each of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/a.htm#amora\">amoraim<\/a><\/em> explains the difference according to their approach. Either the <em>keruvim<\/em> faced somewhat sideways, or else their position changed. According to this approach, the <em>keruvim<\/em> represented the relationship between God and the Jewish People. When the Jews behaved properly and the relationship was good, the <em>keruvim<\/em> looked at each other, but when there were difficulties with the relationship, they looked away from one another.<\/p>\n<p>The idea that the <em>keruvim<\/em> &#8211; cherubs &#8211; are the forms of children, a popular theme in renditions of the <em>aron<\/em>, has its source in this Gemara, which quotes the great translator <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=75&amp;letter=O\">Onkelos<\/a> as rendering the passage in <em>Divrei HaYamim<\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt25b03.htm#10\">II:3:10<\/a>) as <em>ma&#8217;aseh tza&#8217;atzu&#8217;im<\/em>, which is understood by the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/r.htm#rishon\">rishonim<\/a><\/em> as children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Bava Batra 100a-b<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>During the time of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a>, common burial practice was for families to arrange for burial caves. Every family would purchase a rocky area that they would dig out, creating an entrance area surrounded by a series of caves, one for each household in the family. In each cave, burial areas &#8211; called <em>kuchin<\/em> &#8211; were chiseled out of the rock. Each of the <em>kuchin<\/em> would open into the cave, and the dead body would be placed in it after which the <em>kuch<\/em> would be sealed with rocks, plaster, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The Mishnah on our <em>daf<\/em> discusses the sale of an ordinary burial cave, which is meant to serve as a family burial plot. The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/tw.htm#tanna\">Tanna<\/a><\/em> <em>Kamma<\/em> of the Mishnah teaches that an ordinary cave must offer enough room to build an entrance area of four <em>amot<\/em> (cubits) by six <em>amot<\/em>, with room for eight <em>kuchin<\/em>, three on either side and two opposite the entrance. Each of these <em>kuchin<\/em> must be four <em>amot<\/em> deep, six <em>tefachim<\/em> (handbreadths) wide and seven <em>tefachim<\/em> high.<\/p>\n<p>The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/r.htm#rishon\">rishonim<\/a><\/em> explain that the size of these areas is important for both practical and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#halachah\">halakhic<\/a><\/em> reasons. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=179&amp;letter=S\">Rashbam<\/a> explains that a depth of four <em>amot<\/em> is needed to fit a normal sized person in a casket &#8211; ordinarily a casket made of stone. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rabbis\/ritva.htm\">Ritva<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Meir_Abulafia\">Ramah<\/a> point out that this includes room to seal the <em>kuch<\/em> with dirt, rocks, etc. The need for a height of seven <em>tefachim<\/em> is related to the rules of ritual purity and defilement. When a body is in a tightly enclosed space, the <em>tumah<\/em> &#8211; the ritual defilement &#8211; that emanates from the dead body &#8220;leaps&#8221; beyond the enclosure, putting <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/jl.htm#kohen\">kohanim<\/a><\/em> at risk to become ritually defiled should they walk above the body. If, however, there is a <em>pote&#8217;ah tefach<\/em> &#8211; an opening the size of a handbreadth above the body in a closed area, the <em>tumah<\/em> will be held in that immediate area, and ritual defilement will not be spread. It is, therefore, important to have enough space to contain the <em>tumah<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 101a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the course of discussing burial practices, our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> quotes a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> that appears in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#masechet\">Masechet<\/a><\/em> <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=946\">Nazir<\/a><\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=1009\">64b<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>The Mishnah deals with a situation where a person comes upon a place where he finds a body buried, and it is not clear whether this was a body that was buried here temporarily, with the intent of moving it to a proper cemetery when the opportunity arose, or if it is part of a <em>shechunat kevarot<\/em> &#8211; a formal burial area &#8211; that cannot be disturbed. Such a discovery was likely to take place during the period before one of the <em>shalosh regalim<\/em> &#8211; the three pilgrimage holidays, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/np.htm#pesach\">Pesach<\/a><\/em>, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#shavuot\">Shavuot<\/a><\/em> and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sukkot\">Sukkot<\/a><\/em> &#8211; when it was common practice to check the roads that the <em>olei regalim<\/em> &#8211; the pilgrims &#8211; would take in order to assure that they were clear of anything that would ritually defile them. The <em>olei regalim<\/em> would always need to remain in a state of ritual purity in order to bring sacrifices in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#beithamikdash\">Temple<\/a>, and it was, therefore, essential that the roads were kept clear of <em>tumah<\/em> on their behalf. Thus, discovering a dead body on or near the public thoroughfare led to the question &#8220;can this body be moved?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Generally speaking, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#halachah\">halacha<\/a><\/em> recognizes that <em>met koneh et mekomo<\/em> &#8211; that a dead person takes possession of the ground where he is lies and cannot be moved. \u00a0Therefore, if we have reason to believe that a person was buried in a specific place, he cannot be moved, and the grave would need to be clearly marked. If, however, an unknown body was found, the Mishnah teaches that it can be moved to a cemetery. One case where we are forced to assume that a body was buried in a place purposefully is when a number of bodies were found buried in close proximity, and another one is found nearby (within twenty <em>amot<\/em>, or cubits), since <em>raglayim la-davar<\/em> &#8211; the status quo would indicate that this is a <em>shechunat kevarot<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 102a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Bet Kur<\/em>, the seventh <em>perek<\/em> of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#masechet\">Masechet<\/a><\/em> <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=1676\">Bava Batra<\/a><\/em>, begins on today&#8217;s <em>daf<\/em>. Its focus is on the purchase of different types of real estate, and in particular on how deficiencies or blemishes will affect the sale. Just as the previous <em>perek<\/em> dealt with deficiencies in moveable objects, similarly in real estate there are some deficiencies that are accepted as part of a field and others that no purchaser would knowingly accept. Since it is natural for fields to include hills and valleys, rocks and broken areas, it is necessary for the Talmud to establish what is a natural and acceptable blemish, and when the loss to the buyer is significant enough for him to demand a reduction in price, or a replacement for the area that cannot be used.<\/p>\n<p>The first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> teaches that if a person agrees to sell <em>bet kur afar<\/em> \u2013 land upon which a <em>kur<\/em> of grain can be grown \u2013 if there are gashes in the ground that are ten <em>tefachim<\/em> (handbreadths) deep, or rocks that are ten <em>tefahim<\/em> high, those areas are not to be included in the sale. If, however, the agreement was that <em>ke-bet kur<\/em> \u2013 approximately a <em>bet kor<\/em> &#8211; was being sold, then such gashes or rocks would be included.<\/p>\n<p>A <em>bet kor<\/em> is a measure of volume; it is the size of a field that will grow 30 <em>se&#8217;ah<\/em> of grain (248 or 430 liters, depending on the definition of a <em>se&#8217;ah<\/em>), which is 75,000 square <em>amot<\/em> (17, 280 or 24,900 square meters). The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=17&amp;letter=H\">Nimukei Yosef<\/a> points out that the agreement cannot possibly be one where they agree on a specific field or portion of a field, since in that case the agreement would take effect. \u00a0The case of the Mishnah must be when the seller presents a larger field and they agree that an unspecified area of a <em>bet kor<\/em> was to be sold.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 103a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>As we learned on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=1778\">yesterday&#8217;s <em>daf<\/em><\/a>, if someone agreed to sell an area of land that will produce a <em>bet kor<\/em>, then obstacles on the field that will keep it from producing will not be included in the size of the field. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> differentiated between rocks that are higher than ten <em>tefachim<\/em> (handbreadths), which are considered obstacles, and those that are lower than ten <em>tefachim<\/em> (handbreadths), which are considered part of the field.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> limits this allowance to specific circumstances. Thus Rabbi Yitzhak teaches that even smaller rocks will only be considered part of the field if they are less than the space needed for planting four <em>kabin<\/em>, and Rav Ukba bar Hama and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=810&amp;letter=H\">Rav Hiyya bar Aba<\/a> teach that they must be spread out over the field, and not collected in one place.<\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Yirmiyah asks a series of questions to clarify this ruling.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>What if the rocks were set up in a pattern?<\/li>\n<li>What if they were set up in a circle?<\/li>\n<li>What if they were in a straight line?<\/li>\n<li>What if they were in the shape of a &#8220;V&#8221;?<\/li>\n<li>What if they were in a zig-zag shape?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/r.htm#rishon\">rishonim<\/a><\/em> explain that all of these questions aim at a similar point. In a case where the above criteria are met &#8211; there are fewer than four <em>kabin<\/em> of rocks spread out over the field &#8211; will a pattern change our ruling? The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=179&amp;letter=S\">Rashbam<\/a> explains that an occasional rock does not serve as a major obstacle, but that a series of rocks may be bothersome when working a field. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=420&amp;letter=A\">Ra&#8217;avad<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rabbis\/rama.htm\">Ramah<\/a> understand the question to be whether rocks set up in a pattern will be considered to be gathered together in one spot, which would make them an obstacle which is not counted as part of the field.<\/p>\n<p>To all of these questions, the Gemara responds &#8220;<em>Teiku<\/em>.&#8221; The question stands and we do not have an answer.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Bava Batra 104a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/learning.php?pg=Daf_Yomi&amp;articleId=1779\">yesterday&#8217;s <em>daf<\/em><\/a> taught that if someone who was selling land stated at the time of the sale that he was selling an exact amount &#8211; according to strict measurements &#8211; then even a small amount would have to be returned or paid for. If, on the other hand, the seller said that he was selling &#8220;more of less&#8221; that amount, then even if there was an error of up to one-quarter of a <em>se&#8217;ah<\/em> of planting (which is 1\/24 of the <em>bet kur<\/em> field that was being sold), we accept that it is within acceptable error and it need not be returned. The Mishnah continues that if the error was larger than that amount, the additional land would need to be returned, concluding <em>ve-lo et ha-rovah bilvad hu mahzir, ela et kol ha-motar<\/em> &#8211; and he returns not only the quarter that was given in error, but the additional bit beyond the quarter, as well.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> reacts to this line in the Mishnah by saying <em>kelapei laya!<\/em>? Shouldn&#8217;t it be the other way around!? The Gemara concludes that the Mishnah should be worded otherwise &#8211; that not only is the small additional amount returned, but that the entire error must be given back, even the part that the purchaser could have kept had the error been smaller.<\/p>\n<p>The term <em>kelapei laya!<\/em>? is usually interpreted to mean &#8220;where are you turning?&#8221; or, in this context &#8220;how can you think that, since it is the opposite of what appears to be logical.&#8221; There are <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gaon\">geonim<\/a><\/em> who offer an alternative interpretation, explaining this expression as though it were <em>kelapei alya<\/em> &#8211; &#8220;towards its tail&#8221; &#8211; meaning that it appears that you are riding backwards, i.e. your statement is the opposite of what you should be saying.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>In addition to his monumental translation and commentary on the Talmud, Rabbi Steinsaltz has authored dozens of books and hundreds of articles on a variety of topics, both Jewish and secular. For more information about Rabbi Steinsaltz&#8217;s groundbreaking work in Jewish education, visit <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/\">www.steinsaltz.org<\/a> or contact the Aleph Society at 212-840-1166.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Coming Week&#8217;s Daf Yomi by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz This essay is based upon the insights and chidushim (original ideas) of Talmudic scholar Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, as published in the Hebrew version of the Steinsaltz Edition of the Talmud. 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