{"id":10245,"date":"2006-09-27T22:22:00","date_gmt":"2006-09-27T22:22:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/production.ou.org\/life\/other\/masechet_sukkah2733\/"},"modified":"2015-10-22T07:03:27","modified_gmt":"2015-10-22T12:03:27","slug":"masechet_sukkah2733","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/torah\/masechet_sukkah2733\/","title":{"rendered":"Masechet Sukkah 27a-33b"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>The Coming Week&#8217;s Daf Yomi by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This essay is based upon the insights and chidushim (original ideas) of Talmudic scholar Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, as published in the Hebrew version of the Steinsaltz Edition of the Talmud.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>This month\u2019s Steinsaltz Daf Yomi is sponsored by Dr. and Mrs. Alan Harris, The Lewy Family Foundation, and Marilyn and Edward Kaplan<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 27a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> brings the opinion of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=215&amp;letter=E\">Rabbi Eliezer<\/a>, who says that over the course of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sukkot\">Sukkot<\/a><\/em>, a person is obligated to eat two meals per day in the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/sukkah.htm\">sukkah<\/a><\/em>, i.e. one should eat 14 meals in the <em>sukkah<\/em> over the course of the Biblically mandated seven-day holiday. According to the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#chacham\">Chachamim<\/a><\/em>, however, there is only an obligation to eat in the <em>sukkah<\/em> on the first night of the holiday. From then on, a person can choose to eat food that does not obligate him to sit in the <em>sukkah<\/em>, and he will not be obligated to do so.<\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus was also known as Rabbi Eliezer ha-Gadol. He lived during the time of the destruction of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Second_Temple\">second Temple<\/a> and in the period following the destruction. Although Rabbi Eliezer came from a wealthy family that could trace its roots back to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#moshe\">Moshe Rabbenu<\/a>, he did not begin to study <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a> until he was 20 years old, when he traveled to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/yerushalayim.htm\">Jerusalem<\/a> to study with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=362&amp;letter=J\">Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai<\/a>. Rabbi Eliezer so impressed his teacher that Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai considered him to be the best of all his students and, indeed, the equal of all the Sages. His knowledge and leadership abilities were already recognized before the destruction of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#beithamikdash\">Temple<\/a>, and he is one of the Sages who established the great <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/yz.htm#yeshiva\">yeshiva<\/a> in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=13&amp;letter=J\">Yavneh<\/a> together with Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai after the destruction.<\/p>\n<p>We find recorded in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/np.htm#pirkei\">Pirkei Avot<\/a><\/em> that Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai described Rabbi Eliezer as a &#8220;well plastered cistern that never loses a drop of water,&#8221; whose teachings were based almost entirely on traditions that he received from his teachers. Nevertheless, we find that, in contrast to his teachers and peers, Rabbi Eliezer was inclined to follow the opinions of Bet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/shammai.htm\">Shammai<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=1033&amp;letter=A\">Rabbi Akiva<\/a> was his main student, although virtually all of the Sages of that generation learned from him. His own son, Hyrcanus, was accepted as one of the leading Sages of his generation.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 28a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the context of discussing <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=215&amp;letter=E\">Rabbi Eliezer ben Hyrcanus<\/a> and his teacher, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=362&amp;letter=J\">Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> mentions that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=730&amp;letter=H\">Hillel ha-Zaken<\/a> had eighty students \u2013 thirty who are described as deserving of divine revelation like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#moshe\">Moshe Rabbeinu<\/a>, thirty who merit the cessation of heavenly orbits as did <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/yz.htm#yehoshua\">Yehoshua bin Nun<\/a>, and twenty average students. The greatest of his students was <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=414&amp;letter=J\">Yonatan ben Uziel<\/a>; the least of them was Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai.<\/p>\n<p>In what fields was the &#8220;least of the students&#8221; expert?<\/p>\n<p>It was said of Rabbi Yochanan ben Zakkai that his studies included the written <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a>, the Gemara, the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#halachah\">Halakhot<\/a><\/em>, and <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aggadah\">Aggadot<\/a><\/em>; the subtle points of the Torah and the minutiae of the Scribes; the inferences from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kal_vachomer\">minor to major<\/a> and analogies; astronomy and geometry (the simple meaning of the word in Greek is land measurements, but it was commonly used to mean engineering or mathematics in general); the language of the ministering angels; the language of the demons, the whisper of the palms, washer&#8217;s proverbs and fox fables, and matters great and small.<\/p>\n<p>The report on Yonatan ben Uziel was that when he would sit and study Torah, a bird that flew above his head would immediately burn up.<\/p>\n<p>We have surprisingly little biographical information about Yonatan ben Uziel. His life&#8217;s work, for which he is best known and remembered, is his translation of the books of <em>Nach<\/em> (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/np.htm#navi\">nevi&#8217;im<\/a><\/em>) into <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Aramaic_language\">Aramaic<\/a>. It is not clear whether the translation that we have today is actually the one that he wrote, or whether it is based on his work. In any case, it is not simply a translation, but a free interpretation, which includes many details and elucidations. Although a translation into Greek already existed at the time, his work was groundbreaking in that it included interpretations beyond the simple meaning of the words and was done according to \u2013 and with the approval of \u2013 the Sages of his generation.<\/p>\n<p>We find that Yonatan ben Uziel was so well regarded during his lifetime, that even <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/shammai.htm\">Shamai ha-Zaken<\/a>, who served as the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Av_Beit_Din\">Av Bet Din<\/a><\/em>, sought him out to discuss issues of <em>halakha<\/em> with him.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 29a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> (28b) taught the general principle that during the week of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sukkot\">Sukkot<\/a><\/em> a person should make his house his temporary dwelling (<em>ara&#8217;i<\/em>) and his <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/sukkah.htm\">sukkah<\/a><\/em> his permanent dwelling (<em>keva<\/em>). Thus, a person&#8217;s beautiful utensils should be brought into the <em>sukkah<\/em> and his normal eating, drinking and daily activities should take place there.<\/p>\n<p>Nevertheless, not everything is appropriate in the <em>sukkah<\/em>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=5&amp;letter=R\">Rava<\/a> rules that the place for drinking utensils is in the <em>sukkah<\/em>, but eating utensils should remain in the house.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, a candle can only be left in a large <em>sukkah<\/em>; if the <em>sukkah<\/em> is small then the candle should remain in the house.<\/p>\n<p>The <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=1930&amp;letter=A\">Rosh<\/a><\/em> and the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rabbis\/meiri.htm\">Me&#8217;iri<\/a><\/em> explain that the problem with eating utensils is that when they become dirty they are inappropriate for the <em>sukkah<\/em>, so they must be removed immediately. <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#baaleitosafot\">Tosafot<\/a><\/em> and the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rabbis\/ritva.htm\">Ritva<\/a><\/em> argue that the reference is not to plates as much as it is to pots and pans, whose place is in the kitchen and not on the table. Others suggest that the difference between eating utensils and drinking utensils is that there are set times for meals, so those are the only times that eating utensils belong in the <em>sukkah<\/em>. Drinking takes place all of the time, so cups and glasses always belong in the <em>sukkah<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>With regard to the candle, the most obvious explanation of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> is that in a small <em>sukkah<\/em> we are afraid that a fire might break out, which is the approach suggested by <em>Tosafot<\/em> and the <em>Rosh<\/em>. \u00a0Alternatively, as explained by the <em>Ritva<\/em> and the <em>Mei&#8217;ri<\/em>, the need to stay a distance away from the fire effectively takes away from the size of the <em>sukkah<\/em>, so it cannot be placed in a <em>sukkah<\/em> which is the minimum size to begin with. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rashi.htm\">Rashi<\/a> offers an alternative approach \u2013 that we are talking about a clay candle holder, and that even if the candle is no longer burning, it should not be left in a <em>sukkah<\/em>, since it is considered ugly and disgusting \u2013 like the dirty dishes that must immediately be removed.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 30a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The third <em>perek<\/em><em>, Lulav ha-Gazul<\/em>, which began on yesterday&#8217;s <em>daf<\/em>, or page (29b), focuses on the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mitzvah\">mitzvah<\/a><\/em> of taking the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/a.htm#arbaminim\">four species<\/a> (see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/tw.htm#vayikra\">Vayikra<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt0323.htm#40\">23:40<\/a>). Based on the explanation of this commandment in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a>, many details remain unclear:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>To what plants is the Torah referring &#8211; it offers more in the way of a description than a specific tree or shrub?<\/li>\n<li>Are there requirements about the condition of the plants that are to be used for this <em>mitzvah<\/em>?<\/li>\n<li>Do all of the plants need to be taken together?<\/li>\n<li>Is the commandment a <em>mitzvah<\/em> on all Jews, or is it connected to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#beithamikdash\">Temple<\/a> service?<\/li>\n<li>Does the <em>mitzvah<\/em> apply on just the first day of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sukkot\">Sukkot<\/a><\/em>, or on every day of the holiday?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>These very issues are the ones dealt with in our <em>perek<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>The title of the <em>perek \u2013 Lulav ha-Gazul<\/em> \u2013 refers to the first rule in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a>, which prohibits using a stolen <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/jl.htm#lulav\">lulav<\/a><\/em> to fulfill the <em>mitzvah<\/em>. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=357&amp;letter=J\">Rabbi Yochanan<\/a> quotes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=774&amp;letter=S\">Rabbi Shimon bar Yohai<\/a> as explaining the basis for this prohibition as being a <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah<\/em> \u2013 a commandment that is fulfilled by means of a sinful act. The source for this concept is a passage in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/tanakh.htm\">Tanakh<\/a><\/em> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/treiasar\/malachi.htm\">Malakhi<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt2401.htm#13\">1:13<\/a>) in which the prophet pointedly states that God rejects the offering of a stolen sacrifice, just as He rejects offerings that are physically blemished.<\/p>\n<p>Another <em>pasuk <\/em>quoted in this context refers to God&#8217;s love of justice and His hatred of a stolen <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=1612&amp;letter=B\">olah<\/a><\/em> offering (see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/yeshayahu.htm\">Yeshayahu<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt1061.htm#8\">61:8<\/a>). The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=342&amp;letter=P#1305\">Ri&#8221;af<\/a> points out that the <em>pasuk<\/em> chooses to emphasize an <em>olah<\/em> because it is a sacrifice that it totally burned up for God. While we can well understand that sacrifices where part of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=35&amp;letter=S\">korban<\/a><\/em> is given to its owner cannot come from stolen property, we may have thought that if it all is given to God, there is less of a problem since the entire universe belongs to Him. Thus it is important to emphasize God&#8217;s total rejection of such a suggestion.<\/p>\n<p>The commentaries discuss the concept of <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah<\/em> at great length. The general conclusion is that not every sinful act connected to a commandment negates the <em>mitzvah<\/em>. When the <em>aveirah<\/em> (transgression) is what allows the <em>mitzvah<\/em> to be performed \u2013 as in our case where the <em>lulav<\/em> would not have been available for use had it not been stolen \u2013 then it cannot be used for performance of a <em>mitzvah<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 31a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This <em>perek <\/em>introduced us to the idea that a stolen <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/jl.htm#lulav\">lulav<\/a><\/em> cannot be used to perform a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mitzvah\">mitzvah<\/a><\/em> \u2013 how about a stolen <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/sukkah.htm\">sukkah<\/a><\/em>? Surprisingly, in this case, the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/bc.htm#chacham\">Chachamim<\/a><\/em> permit the use of a <em>sukkah<\/em> that was built on stolen property.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=215&amp;letter=E\">Rabbi Eliezer<\/a>, who forbids its use, does so as much because of the sin involved as because of his view that every person must live in his own <em>sukkah<\/em> and cannot borrow (or steal) the <em>sukkah<\/em> of his friend.<\/p>\n<p>Why is the rule of <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah<\/em> \u2013 a commandment that is being fulfilled by means of a sinful act \u2013 not applied in this case?<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rabbis\/ritva.htm\">Ritva<\/a> raises this question and suggests that the concept of <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah <\/em>applies only to commandments that are acts of prayer and entreaty; this would be true of the <em>lulav,<\/em> which is taken as part of the prayer service, but not the <em>sukkah<\/em>. This explanation is rejected by the majority of the commentaries. The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=269&amp;letter=I\">Tosafot R&#8221;id<\/a> suggests that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> is discussing a case where a significant change was made to the <em>sukkah<\/em> itself, thus removing it from the possession of the original owner, and in turn taking away its <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#halachah\">halakhic<\/a><\/em> status as \u201cstolen.\u201d \u00a0It is also possible that there are some <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/a.htm#amora\">Amoraim<\/a><\/em> who do not accept the restrictions of <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=19&amp;letter=H\">Rabbi Moshe ibn Habib<\/a>, in his <em>Kapot Temarim<\/em>, suggests that the definition of a <em>sukkah<\/em> is its <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#sechach\">sechach<\/a><\/em>; thus the only problem of <em>mitzvah ha-ba&#8217;ah ba-aveirah <\/em>would be when the <em>sechach<\/em> is stolen, and our Gemara is discussing a case when it is land on which the <em>sukkah<\/em> is standing that is stolen.<\/p>\n<p>According to the continuation of the Gemara, even the case of a stolen <em>sechach<\/em> may not be an impediment for using the <em>sukkah<\/em>, because of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=23&amp;letter=T\">takkanat<\/a> marish<\/em>. \u00a0According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a>, if a person has a stolen article in his possession, it is not enough for him to pay its value to the owner \u2013 he must return the object itself. The Sages ruled that in the event that forcing the thief to return the object may discourage him from repenting (e.g. where a stolen beam could only be returned if the thief would have to destroy his house in order to extract the beam), he can return its value rather than the object itself.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, if wood was stolen and used as the<em> sechach<\/em> of a<em> sukkah<\/em>, it is likely that the thief would only have to return the value of the <em>sechach<\/em> and not the <em>sechach<\/em> itself.<\/p>\n<p>It goes without saying that even if a <em>sukkah gezulah<\/em> (stolen) is technically kosher, one should not use someone else&#8217;s <em>sukkah<\/em> without his permission &#8211; see the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=366&amp;letter=I\">Rama<\/a> in the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#shulchanaruch\">Shulchan Arukh<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Orach_Chayim\">Orach Chaim<\/a> <\/em>(637:3).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 32a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Many of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#halachah\">halakhot<\/a><\/em> of <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#hadasim\">hadassim<\/a><\/em> \u2013 the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Myrtle\">myrtle branches<\/a>, referred to as <em>anaf etz avot<\/em> in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/tw.htm#vayikra\">Vayikra<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt0323.htm#40\">23:40<\/a> \u2013 parallel those of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/jl.htm#lulav\">lulav<\/a><\/em>. They cannot be stolen or dried up, etc.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> derives the identification of the <em>hadas<\/em> as a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uni-graz.at\/~katzer\/engl\/Myrt_com.html\">myrtle<\/a> based on its interpretation of the aforementioned passage in Vayikra, reading it to mean that the leaves must cover the branches. In so doing, the Gemara rejects a number of other possible identifications, like <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Olive\">olive branches<\/a>, <em>dulva<\/em> and <em>hirduf.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The <em>Dulva<\/em> \u2013 <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.chengappa.demon.co.uk\/planes\/text\/orientalis.html\">platanus orientalis<\/a><\/em> \u2013 is a tall, non-fruit-bearing tree (it grows to 50 meters high) of the <u><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Platanaceae\">Platanaceae<\/a><\/u> family that is usually grown as an ornamental tree. It is rejected in this case because its leaves do not totally cover its branches.<\/p>\n<p>The <em>hirduf<\/em> \u2013 <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Nerium_oleander\">nerium oleander<\/a><\/em> \u2013 is an evergreen shrub that grows to a height of four meters. Its yellowish-greenish leaves are thick and leathery with pink flowers. Although it certainly meets the requirement to have leaves that cover the branches, it is rejected because of its toxicity. Both <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=120&amp;letter=A\">Abayye<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=5&amp;letter=R\">Rava<\/a> quote <em>psukim<\/em> (=verses) \u2013 Abayye from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/mishlei.htm\">Mishlei<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt2803.htm#17\">3:17<\/a>) that the ways of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a> are pleasant; Rava from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/treiasar\/zechariah.htm\">Zechariah<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mechon-mamre.org\/p\/pt\/pt2308.htm#19\">8:19<\/a>) that the Torah loves truth and peace \u2013 that are understood to indicate that a poisonous plant could not be the one chosen to perform a <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mitzvah\">mitzvah<\/a><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Further details about the requirements for <em>hadassim<\/em> are taught by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=632&amp;letter=J\">Rabbi Yehuda<\/a>, who insists that a kosher <em>hadas<\/em> must have at least <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/dynamic\/content.asp?id=138\">three leaves on each row<\/a>. Rav Kahane permits a <em>hadas<\/em> where the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/dynamic\/content.asp?id=139\">leaves are set up in rows<\/a> with two leaves on one level and a third leaf on the next level. \u00a0This position is rejected by Mar bar Ameimar, who quotes his father as calling this a <em>hadas shoteh<\/em> \u2013 a \u201cfoolish,\u201d or \u201cmistaken,\u201d <em>hadas<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>While the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=366&amp;letter=I\">Rama<\/a> permits the use of a <em>hadas<\/em> where there are two leaves on each level (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/s.htm#shulchanaruch\">Shulchan Arukh<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Orach_Chayim\">Orach Chaim<\/a><\/em> 446:3), the majority of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Posek\">poskim<\/a><\/em> reject that position and rule that three leaves need to be growing on each level.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong><u>Sukkah 33a-b<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Another one of the rules of the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#hadasim\">hadas<\/a><\/em> presented in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mishna\">Mishnah<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/dynamic\/DafYomi_details.asp?id=402\">32a<\/a>) is that if there are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.steinsaltz.org\/dynamic\/content.asp?id=140\">more berries than leaves<\/a>, the <em>hadas<\/em> cannot be used. If the berries are removed, however, then the <em>hadas<\/em> is considered kosher for use.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=801&amp;letter=H\">Rav Chisda<\/a> presented a limitation on this rule that had been taught by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=127&amp;letter=A\">Rav<\/a> (he refers to him as <em>Rabbeinu ha-Gadol<\/em>, apparently because he was the youngest of Rav&#8217;s students and had learned from many of Rav&#8217;s older students &#8211; in this case, he wanted to emphasize that he heard this teaching from Rav directly). According to him, the berries are only a problem if they are in one place; if they are spread out in two or three places, then the <em>hadas<\/em> can be used. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=5&amp;letter=R\">Rava<\/a> corrects the statement, arguing that in such a case, the <em>hadas<\/em> would be <em>menumar<\/em> \u2013 spotted \u2013 which is a problem. He explains that Rav must have been making a different point: that if the berries were green they would not be a problem; it is only if they are black (or red, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishencyclopedia.com\/view.jsp?artid=53&amp;letter=P\">Rav Papa<\/a>) that the <em>hadas<\/em> cannot be used.<\/p>\n<p>At no point does the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/di.htm#gemara\">Gemara<\/a> explain why the berries create a problem for the <em>hadas<\/em>. The implication of the Gemara (as interpreted by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/rashi.htm\">Rashi<\/a>) is that the problem is one of <em>hadar<\/em> \u2013 that the four species must be particularly beautiful, and the contrasting color of the berries is considered a blemish, marring the <em>hadar<\/em> of the branches.<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/tw.htm#yerushalmi\">Jerusalem Talmud<\/a> suggests two possible problems with the berries. One suggestion is that the berries \u2013 with their distinct color \u2013 appear to be foreign to the branch; another possibility is that the commandment in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/torah.htm\">Torah<\/a> is to perform the <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ou.org\/about\/judaism\/m.htm#mitzvah\">mitzvah<\/a><\/em> with the branch (<em>anaf<\/em>) \u2013 not with the fruit (<em>pri<\/em>). Once the berries have ripened \u2013 as is indicted by the change in color \u2013 they are considered fruit, which cannot be used for performance of the <em>mitzvah<\/em>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><em>In addition to his monumental translation and commentary on the Talmud, Rabbi Steinsaltz has authored dozens of books and hundreds of articles on a variety of topics, both Jewish and secular. For more information about Rabbi Steinsaltz&#8217;s groundbreaking work in Jewish education, visit <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ou.org\/life\/wp-admin\/www.steinsaltz.org\">www.steinsaltz.org<\/a> or contact the Aleph Society at 212-840-1166.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Coming Week&#8217;s Daf Yomi by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz This essay is based upon the insights and chidushim (original ideas) of Talmudic scholar Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, as published in the Hebrew version of the Steinsaltz Edition of the Talmud. 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