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Contents:
1. Tisha Be-Av on Shabbat, by Rav Binyamin Tabory
2. Tisha Be-Av and Rebuilding the Temple, by Rav Shabtai Rappaport

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TISHA BE-AV ON SHABBAT
By Rav Binyamin Tabory

 When the ninth of Av falls on Shabbat, the fast  is postponed until Sunday.  There are, however, a number  of questions which must be considered:

      1) Is Shabbat, the ninth of Av, considered to be  a day of mourning?

      2) Does the fast on Sunday have the same status as Tisha be-Av in a normal year?

      3)  One could combine these two questions into one: Have  Chazal  canceled the fast of the ninth  of  Av  and instituted it instead on the tenth, or is the day of  the ninth  still the day of mourning in principle,  with  the actual fulfillment delayed to Sunday?  It is possible  to distinguish  between the two questions,  though;  Shabbat may  not be the day of the fast at all, but Sunday  still could have a more lenient character than the ninth of  Av in  normal years.  I shall discuss several halakhot which are   dependent  on  these  questions.   Although    these questions  are  applicable to any  fast  which  falls  on Shabbat, I shall refer only to Tisha be-Av.

A. The Week of Tisha be-Av

      According to the Talmud, during the week  in   which Tisha  be-Av falls, it is prohibited to wash  clothes  or cut one's hair.  If Tisha be-Av falls on Sunday, this law does not apply, as Sunday is the fast, and afterwards  no prohibitions  remain.  If Tisha be-Av falls  on  Shabbat, the  Shulchan Arukh (551,4) rules that this law does  not apply,  just as if it fell on Sunday.  This implies  that the  day  is completely displaced to Sunday; hence  there are  no prohibitions in the preceding week.  However, the Shulchan  Arukh quotes the opinion of the  Smag  and  the Smak,  who  ruled  that  the  entire  preceding  week   is prohibited (with the exception of Thursday and  Friday  - in  honor of Shabbat).  This opinion is clearly based  on the  assumption  that Shabbat is still considered  to  be Tisha be-Av.  In any event, the Rema rules that we follow the  custom  of  prohibiting haircuts from  the  17th  of Tammuz  and  washing clothes from Rosh Chodesh,  so  that there are no practical ramifications of this controversy.

B. Intimate Matters (devarim she-betzin'a) on Shabbat

     The Tosefta (Ta'anit, ch. 3) states that if Tisha be-Av  falls  on  Shabbat, "a man may eat...  and  does   not refuse   himself  anything."   Many  commentators   (Rosh, Ramban,  Meiri, R. Yerucham, etc.) infer from  this  that even  intimate matters (sexual relations) are  permitted. The  Rema,  however,  cites the Or  Zarua  who  prohibits sexual relations, adding, "and this is the minhag."

      The Ktav Sofer (Responsa OC 101) explains that this controversy  depends  on  our question.   If  Shabbat   is considered in principle to be a day of mourning, then non- public prohibitions are in force; however, if Chazal have established Sunday (the tenth of Av) as the fast in  this year,  there  is no reason to abstain from  devarim  she- betzin'a  on  Shabbat.   The Ktav Sofer  reinforced  this possibility  by  citing R. Yochanan  (Ta'anit  29a),  who stated  that  had  it  been up  to  him,  he   would  have preferred the tenth of Av as the day of the fast  in  all years (since, although the fire was started on the ninth, most  of the destruction took place on the tenth).  While in  normal years the fast was in fact established on  the ninth,  the  fact that the tenth is also  an  appropriate date  supports the idea that in a year when the ninth  is Shabbat, the next day is the proper day and not merely  a delayed  fulfillment.  In fact, this appears  to  be  the opinion of the Rashba (Responsa 1, 508):  "In my opinion, no  mourning  applies (on Shabbat), since it  is  written that  he  may arrange a feast as great as that of Shlomo. This  is  because  national mourning is  different  (than personal   mourning),  especially  since  (Chazal)    have completely abrogated the ninth and reestablished  it  (on the tenth), as there was always reason to establish it on
the tenth...."

C. Leniencies on a Postponed Fast

      The Shulchan Arukh (559,9) rules that if there is a berit  mila  on a postponed Tisha be-Av, the father  does not  complete  the  fast, as it is considered  a  private holiday.   The  Magen Avraham (ibid.),  after  a  lengthy discussion,  concludes that this law applies  only  to  a postponed  fast,  including the other three  (on  Ta'anit Esther the father doesn't complete the fast even if it is not  postponed;  see OC 686,1).  The  Gra  disagrees  and maintains  that  on  other fasts,  the  father  does   not complete the fast even if it is not a postponed day; only on  Tisha be-Av should he complete the fast in a  regular year.   In any event, they both agree that on a postponed Tisha be-Av, as opposed to a regular one, the father does not  complete  the fast, implying that  the  day  is  not completely equivalent to the regular Tisha be-Av.

      In  fact, we do not follow this ruling.  The   Arukh HaShulchan reports that the custom is that in all  fasts, even when postponed, the father should complete the fast. Nonetheless,  even though the law is  not  in  force,  it still indicates that in principle a postponed Tisha be-Av is  not  the equivalent of a regular one.  (It  is  quite conceivable  that the Rashba quoted above would  disagree with  this  ruling.)   Based  on  this,  R.  Akiva   Eiger (Shulchan Arukh, ibid.) rules that on a postponed fast, a person  who  is slightly sick or a pregnant woman  should eat.

D. Bar Mitzva on the Tenth of Av

      This  question  is not mentioned  in   the  Shulchan Arukh,  but  is  widely discussed by the  Achronim.   The basic  point  should now be obvious.   If  the  tenth   is properly  the day of the fast, as implied by the  Rashba, the  boy is an adult when the obligation comes into force and must fast.  If, however, Shabbat is a day of mourning (and devarim she-betzin'a are prohibited), and Sunday  is a  delayed  fulfillment of the obligation of Shabbat,  it would appear that the boy is not obligated to fast, since on  Shabbat  (when  the obligation originally  came  into existence) he was still a minor.

E. Summation

      According to the Rashba, Shabbat the ninth of Av is not  a day of mourning, no prohibitions apply to Shabbat, and it is reasonable to conclude that Sunday the tenth is the  proper  day  of  the fast and no  leniencies  should apply.

      According to the Shulchan Arukh, Sunday is  not   in principle the proper day of mourning; hence, a father  of a  berit mila does not complete the fast.  It is possible that  Shabbat  is  considered to be a  day  of  mourning, engendering  a  prohibition on devarim she-betzin'a  (two opinions in the Shulchan Arukh), and perhaps defining the previous  week as "the week in which Tisha  be-Av  falls" (two opinions in the Shulchan Arukh).

      May we merit that God turn these days into days  of joy  and  happiness,  that we  may  ascend  to  the   Beit HaMikdash and celebrate its rebuilding.

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The Ninth of Av and Rebuilding the Temple
Based on a Shiur by Rav Shabtai Hakohen Rappaport
Translated and adapted by Rav Eliezer Kwass

       Tisha  Be-Av  and  the  rest   of  the  fast   days commemorating  the  destruction of  the  Temple  are  not permanent fixtures on the Jewish calendar.  At some point in  the  process of the redemption, the prophet  Zekharia (8:19) tells us, "The fast of the fourth [month] (17th of Tamuz) and the fast of the fifth [month] (9th of Av)  and the  fast of the seventh [month] (Tzom Gedalia)  and  the fast of the tenth [month] (10th of Tevet) will become for the  House  of  Judah  [days of] joy  and  rejoicing   and holidays ..."

      When  will  this  occur?  When,   according  to  the halakha, will we no longer be obligated to keep the  fast days mourning the destruction of the Temple?  We will, in this article, explore Rashi's approach to the passage  in the Talmud (Rosh Hashana 18a-b) that is the key source on this issue.

WHEN THERE IS PEACE

      The mishna (Rosh Hashana 18a) teaches that when the Jewish  calendar was determined by a monthly  codecision, messengers were to be sent out to the communities of  the Exile on six Rosh Chodesh days.  It lists: "Nisan because of Pesach ... and on Av because of the fast day."

      The gemara asks: "Why were messengers not sent   out for  the months of Tamuz and Tevet?"  After all, all four fast days applied at the time this mishna was formulated. Rav  Chana son of Bizna in the name of Rav Shimon Chasida learns this from the fact that these days are referred to in  the  above-cited verse (Zekharia 8:19) both as  fasts and  as days of joy.  He concludes, "When there is peace, they will be days of joy and rejoicing; when there is not peace,  they  are fast days."  In other words,  in  times that are not "peaceful" the four fasts all apply.

      Rav  Pappa  replies  that there  are   really  three national   situations:  1.  when  there   is    government persecution  ("gezeirat  malkhut")  -  all   fasts    must continue;  2. when there is peace - they do not;  and  3. when  there is no persecution, but nor is there  peace  - people   may  fast  or  not  fast,  according  to    their preference.   The  mishna refers to this third  situation and therefore the sages did not deem it necessary to send out messengers for the months of Tevet and Tamuz.

      If  that is the case, asks the gemara, why did they send  out  messengers  in the month  of  Av?   Rav   Pappa answers that since so many calamities took place on Tisha Be-av, it is to be observed even in this third situation. Only "when there is peace" will Tisha Be-av no longer  be observed.

RASHI: WHAT IS "PEACE"?

     Rashi, commenting on the gemara's original question, says:

"All  of  these  fasts are to be observed nowadays  when the Temple is no longer standing.  The mishna refers  to this  period,  as the text of the mishna implies,  'When the Temple WAS standing ...' 'When  there  is  peace' means when idol worshippers  do not rule over us."

These comments pose a number of difficulties: A.  Rashi's  definitions of "peace" and "lack  of   peace" seem  incongruent.  He defines "peace"  as  the  lack   of foreign  domination; yet, his first comment implies  that "the  lack  of peace" means when the Temple is no  longer standing.   The Ramban, in contrast, explains "peace"  as when  the Temple is standing and "lack of peace" as  when the Temple is destroyed (see the chapter in Torat Ha-adam on  Tisha  Be-av).   Why doesn't Rashi give  a  similarly symmetrical explanation? B.  Why do we continue to observe Tisha Be-av today?   If even  Tisha Be-av is to be discontinued when there  is  a state of  peace, today's Jewish independence - defined by Rashi  as  "peace" - should be enough to discontinue  the fast.   The  Talmud clearly refers to Jewish independence in  Israel;  Jews  in  the diaspora  always  lived   under gentile  governments.   Based on Rashi's  explanation  of "joy   and   rejoicing"  -  "eulogies   and  fasting   are prohibited" - it should be PROHIBITED to fast on Tisha Be- av! Many  other  questions can also be raised regarding  this interpretation by Rashi.

RESOLVING RASHI

      It  seems  that Rashi, for all practical   purposes, IDENTIFIED  Jewish sovereignty with building the  Temple. If  there  is  true  Jewish sovereignty,  the  Jews   will rebuild  the  Temple - or at least start the  process  of rebuilding  it.   "When  there is  peace"   includes  both Jewish sovereignty and the Temple being rebuilt.

      We  are  still left with one question: Why   doesn't Rashi   sound consistent?  Why does he explain  "lack  of peace"  to  mean  when the Temple is  not  standing,   and "peace" to mean when there is Jewish sovereignty?

RASHI'S VISION OF THE THIRD TEMPLE

     Rashi's comments on Rosh Hashana 30a have been cited to  demonstrate  that he believes that the  third  Temple will  be  divinely  built.  Among the decrees  of  Rabban Yochanan  ben  Zakkai, the mishna lists  that  using  new grain  ("chadash") is forbidden the whole  day  that  the omer  sacrifice was offered ("yom haneif" -  the  day  of waving), the sixteenth of Nisan.  The Torah forbids using the  year's new grain before offering the omer sacrifice, the first reaping of the barley harvest.  When the Temple was  standing,  the  moment the  sacrifice  was  actually brought  - as the Torah says, "When you bring it"  -  new grain  was  permitted.   On a biblical  level,  when   the Temple  was no longer standing and the sacrifice was  not  brought, the new grain should be permitted at dawn  - as  the  Torah  says,  "on  that day."  Rabban   Yochanan  benZakkai  decreed that new grain should be prohibited  that whole day. 

      What  was  the  rationale behind his   decree?   The gemara explains: "Speedily  the Temple will be rebuilt, and  people  will say,  'Last  year  did we not eat [new grain]  at  dawn? Now  also we can.'  They will not realize that last year when  there  was no omer sacrifice, eating is  permitted at   dawn,  and  this  year  when  there  is   [an   omer sacrifice],  new  grain  is  only  permitted  after   the offering of the sacrifice." 

      The  gemara concludes (see the continuation of   the discussion  on 30a and 30b) that the above problem  would only come up when the Temple was rebuilt on the fifteenth of  Nisan  slightly before sundown or the  night  of  the sixteenth.  Rashi comments: "Perhaps  you  will  say, do we  not  rule  in   tractate Shevu'ot that the Temple is not to be built on  Yom  Tov (the  fifteenth is the first day of Pesach) or at night? This  only applies to when humans build the Temple,  but the future Temple IS IN THE HANDS OF HEAVEN."

      Rashi seems to say explicitly that the third Temple will be built by God and not by man.

     It seems to me that it is not necessary to interpret Rashi  as arguing with the mainstream opinion that  there is  a  mitzva for the people of Israel to build the third Temple.   Rashi  might take a position related  (but  not identical  - see below) to that developed in a  responsum of  Rabbi Yaakov Ettlinger in his Binyan Tzion (#1).  The inyan  Tzion argues against Rav Tzvi Hirsch  Kalischer's proofs  that there is a commandment to  rebuild the Temple and  offer sacrifices whenever possible, even before  the messianic  era.   Besides  the obligation  to  build   the Temple,  writes the Binyan Tzion, there must be a  Divine revelation that the sacrifices offered there are  desired by  Heaven.  Divine desire is a necessary requirement for re-instituting the sacrificial order; sacrifices must  be "reiach  nichoach  la-Shem,"  "sweet  smelling  to   God." According  to  Rav  Ettlinger, it is forbidden  to  offer sacrifices  without explicit prophetic Divine  revelation that they are desired.

      There were those who objected to the Binyan Tzion's approach,  claiming  that  the need  that  sacrifices  be "sweet  smelling to God" does not refer to revelation  of divine  desire  but  rather  to  human  intent  that   the sacrifices  achieve divine desire.  The  person  offering the  sacrifice  must intend to do something  desirous  by Heaven.   Rashi might agree with this approach but  still believe   that   a  revelation  that  God    desires   our sacrificial service is essential for reinstating  certain aspects of the sacrificial order.

     The approach of the Binyan Tzion also rings true for a  practical reason.  There are so many unclear  halakhic issues  involved in the building of the  Temple:  Is  the tekhelet  used  in the kohanim's clothing  the  authentic one?   Is  the  altar properly placed (see  the  Rambam's Hilkhot Beit Ha-bechira chapter 2)?  Are those serving as kohanim really descended from Aharon?  Even though, as in all  areas  of  halakha, we are to use the  best  of  our knowledge and follow tradition, with regard to the Temple of  Israel it is essential that there be unanimous assent to  its halakhic legitimacy.  It would take a prophet  to assure  that all Jews would support the reinstated Temple service.   Otherwise, some individuals might  claim  that the  new  Temple  is not in line with Halakha,  and   theycould not be forced to change their minds.

     It seems that those who would rebuild the Temple and offer  sacrifices - based on a general consensus  of  the sages  of  the land of Israel - would still refrain  from offering  the  OMER  until the  appearance  of  a   Divine revelation that the new Temple is desired.  The  offering of  the omer affects the whole Jewish people's mitzva  of not  eating  of  the  new grain.  The leadership  of   the people,  despite broad national consent, would still  not offer  the  Omer  on behalf of all of Israel  withoDivine approval.

      When Rashi says, "When the Temple is standing,"   he refers to divine will concerning the Temple, not just its physical building.  The Temple might be physically  built long before Pesach, but the divine revelation that it  is approved  and desired might only take place  on  Yom  Tov afternoon  or  at  night.  Rashi's comment  is  carefully worded:  "The future Temple IS IN THE HANDS  OF  HEAVEN." He  does  not  mean that it will be built by Heaven,  but rather  that its functioning is in the hands  of  Heaven, waiting  for  Divine approval.  WHEN this approval  comes has  nothing  to  do  with the law against  building  the Temple at night or on Yom Tov.

REINSTATING SACRIFICES

      We  can  prove  that the altar  can   be  built  and sacrifices  offered upon it even without a  Temple.   The gemara (Makkot 19a) quotes Rabbi Yishmael as saying  that one  cannot  bring ma'aser sheni (tithe to  be  eaten  in Jerusalem)  to Jerusalem and eat it there nowadays.   His proof  is from the laws of the sacrifice of the firstborn animal,  which  must  likewise be brought  to  Jerusalem. Just as the firstborn can be offered only when there is a Temple, so too ma'aser sheni.  The gemara asks what Rabbi Yishmael's   position  is  regarding  the   sanctity    of Jerusalem at the present time.  If he believes  that  the sanctity  of the Second Temple period remains in  effect, then the firstborn should also be brought nowadays!

     Rashi comments:

"He  can offer it and eat it.  For if one believes  that the  sanctity  of the Second Temple remains  in  effect, then  he  must maintain that sacrifices can  be  brought even without a Temple, as we say in Megilla (10a)."

      Apparently, sacrifices can be brought, according to this  opinion,  even  when there is  no  Temple.    Simply building an altar suffices to enable offering sacrifices. These  are  two independent realms of Halakha -  building the   Temple   and  offering  sacrifices.   A   completely functioning  Temple  is  dependent  on  divine  approval. Since  we were told, "I will destroy your Temples  and  I will  not  smell your fragrant offerings," we  must  wait until  we are told otherwise.  However, sacrifices depend only on the practical ability to build an altar.  As long as  the  firstborn can be offered, ma'aser sheni  can  be eaten (in purity) in Jerusalem.

      This  is  also  the Rambam's position:   in  Hilkhot Ma'aser Sheni (2:1), he writes that ma'aser sheni  cannot be  eaten  in Jerusalem unless there is a Temple ("bifnei ha- ayit").   On  the  other hand, in  Hilkhot  Beit   Ha- bechira (6:15) he writes that because the sanctity of the Second  Temple continues to this day, sacrifices  can  be brought  today and ma'aser sheni can be eaten in  all  of Jerusalem  even  though there are no walls.   The  Rambam seems  to  refer  to the present time.  In  other  words, building  the Temple and the altar are within  our  hands nowadays, even though our period will not be referred  to as  "when  the Temple is standing" until there is  divine approval of the Temple.

UNDERSTANDING RASHI

     Why, then, does Rashi refer to "peace" as when there is  Jewish  sovereignty and "lack of peace" as  when  the Temple is not standing? 

      The mishna used the expression, "when the Temple is not  standing," implying that it was composed in a period when the Temple was destroyed and Pesach Sheni could  not be  offered.  Therefore, Rashi explained "lack of  peace" as  when the Temple was not standing.  Here, Rashi  means that  the  Temple is not physically standing.   This  was only because it was not practically possible to build the Temple   because  of  an  unwilling  gentile   government. Rashi,  by  explaining "peace" as when  there  is   Jewish sovereignty, indicates his approach that the  Temple  can and  will be built when it is practically possible.   The Temple  can be built and sacrifices brought even  without Divine approval.

      When  the  Temple  will  be  able   to  be  built  - physically - the fasts will cease and instead become days of  joy.   This  will become possible when  external  and internal  pressures will allow for it.   Perhaps  we  can infer  from  the gemara that Tisha Be-av  will  still  be observed  during this period.  (The proof given that  the mishna  was written in a period when the Temple  was  not standing is NOT that messengers went out to announce Rosh Chodesh  Av  - that might have been even when the  Temple was standing.  The proof is only that the mishna uses the expression,  "when  the  Temple was  standing.")    It  is likely  that Tisha Be-av will be observed even  when  the Temple  is  standing  until there is  a  divine  sign   of approval, that God once again desires our sacrifices  and wants to have His Presence rest in the Beit Hamikdash.

(For  the  full version of this article, see  Daf  Kesher
#145, Av 5748, vol. 2, pp. 103-106.)

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