Reflections on Being a Loser at Jewish Geography

By Devora Lifshutz



image“And tell me, where did you used to daven?”

It was an innocent question, e-mailed by a stranger seeking my advice about something or other. As the e-mails flew between us, we discovered that we’d grown up in the same neighborhood. Small world, right?

She followed up with the usual questions about my maiden name (mine was common and vaguely Jewish-sounding) and where I’d gone to school (not a Bais Yaakov or a coed yeshivah, but good enough to keep me in the game for Jewish geography purposes).

Then came the next question. “Where did your family daven?” she wanted to know. For me, this was the question, like the pea in the princess’s mattress. This was the way to determine whether or not I was authentically FFB, frum from birth.

What bugged me more than the question was its answer—the true answer, the one I never give—that I’d grown up without a shul. In the Orthodox world, not being connected to a shul is about as socially correct as being homeless.

It’s not as if my parents had some bone to pick with the Ribbono shel Olam. They didn’t; they were good people, ehrlicher Yidden, who valued their Judaism enough to pay extravagantly for me to attend the best Jewish day school in our city.

It was just that in our neighborhood the shuls were scary places—grand sanctuaries with crystal chandeliers and velvet pews; rabbis with doctorates and wealthy, socially prominent members. My parents, with their thick accents and Old World ways, just didn’t feel comfortable enough to join. True, there were other types of shuls—shteibelach—but they were for the elderly and strictly Orthodox, not for my family.

So every morning my father recited prayers alone in the kitchen and on Friday at dusk my mother lit candles, whispering the blessing in her raspy, Galicianer-accented Hebrew. On the High Holidays we went to services in the grand ballroom of a slightly shabby hotel, but that wasn’t like having a real shul—a place where my father would get an aliyah, my mother would slice marble cake for the kiddush and a candy man would ply me with sweets.

That was fine until I started going to day school. I remember watching from my bedroom window on Shabbat morning as my classmates went to services with their parents,
In the Orthodox world, not being connected to a shul is about as socially correct as being homeless.
all of them farputzed in their elegant Shabbat-wear.

I wasn’t quite sure what went on at those big shuls, but it had to be better than what I was doing, which was staying at home and watching cartoons.

In fourth grade, my Judaic studies teacher told the class that we should go to shul on Shabbat, and so I asked my mother to take me. “No,” she said, but my father agreed and so began a ritual that continued until I hit puberty.

Now we, too, got up every Shabbat morning and put on our best clothes. But the shul we walked to wasn’t Orthodox, and it had an organ and a choir. Invariably, we’d arrive late—around Mussaf time—and my father would settle down for a little shluff. I’d daven a quick Shemoneh Esrei and run out to play, but I never really enjoyed the ritual.

Even at the age of nine, I could tell that this was the wrong kind of shul. It wasn’t like the shuls my classmates attended, nor was it the kind my teacher had in mind, but I didn’t have any way of explaining this to my dad. Besides, what would we have done in an Orthodox shul, with him sitting alone in the men’s section and me alone in the women’s gallery? So we kept up the tradition until I hit my early teens and started going to another shul, an Orthodox one with an NCSY chapter.

I usually mention that shul as an answer to the dreaded shul question. This time, however, I felt emboldened by the anonymity of e-mail, and decided to tell the stranger the truth.

“We didn’t really have a shul,” I typed back.

There was no response. Our little e-friendship was over. I suspect that my bluntness frightened my erstwhile pen pal, this FFB aristocrat who probably never missed a Shabbat in shul from the moment she was born.

Looking back on our little exchange, I’m shocked by the degree to which this question still bothers me. I’m sure some would assure me that I should be proud to have started going to shul on my own at such a young age, but that isn’t how I feel.

Even as I creep toward fifty, I still feel ashamed of my “no-shul upbringing.” To this day, I hate Jewish geography, hate the fact that my life doesn’t align neatly on one of the game’s imaginary coordinates.

I used to think I was alone in this feeling, but I’ve discovered that plenty of folks feel the same way. There are other Jewish geography haters: ba’alei teshuvah, converts, people from small towns.

A friend told me that she once hosted a new ba’alat teshuvah for Friday night dinner. Wanting to be friendly, she started asking the usual questions (Where are you from? Where did you grow up? Where did you go to school?). Suddenly the girl turned bright red. “I’m tired of questions. Everyone asks me so many questions!” she yelled. From then on, my friend stopped asking such questions. And so, I think, should the rest of us.

The laws of proper speech forbid one from asking questions that might prove to be embarrassing, unless there is an important reason to do so. Certainly the game of Jewish geography is not that essential. If ahavat Yisrael (love of a fellow Jew) and kiruv rechokim (bringing those far close) are truly meaningful to us, then we should say goodbye to Jewish geography.

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Recent Comments

As a convert, I couldn’t agree more.  I’m proud of the choice I made.  I’m proud of what I have learned.  I’m proud of my kosher kitchen.  But, when the Jewish Geography games start, I always feel “less than.”  And, even though the subject of one’s conversion is never supposed to be brought up because a convert is just as Jewish as a person naturally born to a Jewish mother, it does come up.  If I don’t mention it, I feel dishonest, but if I do, people often look down their nose at me.  Not a very comfortable thing at all.  If Jewish Geography did not exist, and one were just to look at the way I live, life would be a lot better.

Rachel Chanah posted on 12/12 at 12:56 AM.


This is so true for a great many people.  Thanks for printing it.

Sally Weichbrod posted on 12/12 at 01:35 AM.


It is unfortunate that you and others feel ashamed of the lack of “belonging” to an orthodox shul. I love playing Jewish geography as I do come from a small midwestern town, went to conservative camps and grew up in a conservative shul. YOu would be surprised to know how many ortho people I meet who had the same background and have come to orthodoxy as well. I have never known anyone to put me down for coming to my own decisions on becoming more frum, or to have stopped talking to me because I did not fit their ideal of what my background should have been. I have often told people, we didn;t have a dayschool where I grew up. Who you are today speaks volumes for you and what decisions you have made is what is important. Your parents made decisions that on some level worked for them, but not for you. You have made decisions for you that hopefully work for you, and perhaps your children will not feel embarassed and ashamed of their upbringing, as you seem to.

debby posted on 12/12 at 04:41 AM.


Devorah,

Nice article, but for heaven’s sake get over it! You’re almost 50.

I’m in the exact same place; almost 50, grew up in a traditional home, went to day school, conservative temple, public high school, NCSY, etc.

Except, I’m perfectly happy, even proud, to tell anyone who asks about my background.  I loved my public high school years and still maintain friendships from that time.

I’ve even, gasp, married off two daughters with full disclosure.  One of them, now sit down, is a Bais Yaakov girl who married into a meyuchasdik yeshivish family.

Don’t be ashamed, be proud!

Menachem

Menachem posted on 12/12 at 04:42 AM.


I was a perpetrator of Jewish Geography a few years ago, and I can almost relate to this story. I met a Hazzan from my hometown, and began to ask simple questions about what neighborhood, etc. I embarrassed him it turns out accidentally, because he is a convert. I honestly didn’t care about that. I was surprised to meet someone from my old home, and was just curious as to which high school he attended. Baruch HaShem, I hope I learned my lesson.

Randy Farb posted on 12/12 at 10:46 AM.


Most people like talking about themselves.  Most people feel welcomed when others show interest in them.  When someone asks about your background they are trying to be friendly and welcoming, not judgmental about your parents and their choices.

Norman Green posted on 12/12 at 11:22 AM.


Dear Devorah,
To paraphrase Shakespeare,“The fault, dear Devorah, lies not in others, but in ourselves, that we feel as underlings.” I have always been in awe of baalei teshuva and converts. They know the difficulties in maintaning a frum home, yet choose the fulfillment of such a life over the ease of a secular life. Be proud of your choice instead of ashamed, and I think you may be very pleasantly surprised by the reactions you get.
About twenty five years ago, shortly before Shovuos, I was riding to a class with someone from my neighborhood. She told me her young daughter was just learning about Ruth in school. When she learned that Ruth had converted, this innocent little girl told her teacher and her whole class,“My Mommy is just like Ruth. She also chose to be Jewish.” I had not known that this woman was a convert until then. Her husband had not been religious and had married her before her conversion. Together, they chose an Orthodox lifestyle. She and the two daughters already born converted, and are blessed with wonderful bnei Torah families and grandchildren as are her children “frum from birth”.
I am proud of you. May you continue to inspire.
Channie Stein

Channie Stein posted on 12/12 at 01:16 PM.


I have very mixed feelings about your experiences. On the one hand, as a baalat tshuva, I definitely relate to your feeling left out when people play “Jewish Geography”. On the other hand, these are normal questions even among non-Jews, and I can’t help but feel we over-react to many of these questions. If someone has a problem with our past, that is the other person’s problem, not ours. What is more important, is how you really feel inside about your decision.

I know I struggle with feelings of resentment because of what I don’t have (yeshiva education, husband and children, nice house, . . .) and tend not to remember the difficulties other people have in their lives. Jewish Geography accentuates the feelings of being on the outside, but is not the root of these feelings.

So, maybe, instead of eliminating the game, we just need to change the rules; i.e,, it’s ok to ask where you’re from and if you know so-and-so, but stop there unless the questionee continues.

Good luck and keep your chin up.

tehila leah posted on 12/12 at 01:42 PM.


Ahh - “There was no response. Our little e-friendship was over.”  The “frumer than thou” disease.” Why aren’t the “FFB"s involved in kiruv? Bring people IN rather than keep them out. Was Moses an FFB? How about Abram and Sara? Ruth? Shemu’el bar Yehuda, Aquila, Onkelos, or Minyamin Ger HaMitzri? Someone - in Abram’s case, HaShem - made an effort to bring them in. Consider that the non-FFB, like the new citizen, had to make an effort to become knowledgable and to participate.

Yohanon posted on 12/12 at 02:28 PM.


While I liked the article, I agree with those who say people shouldn’t be upset by Jewish geography just because they aren’t FFB.  I am baal teshuva, my wife was not born Jewish.  She had a reform conversion before I met her; less than a year after our marriage she had an Orthodox Bet Din convert her (and we then had an Orthodox wedding for good measure).

I remember one Shabbat lunch.  Four families from our Orthodox shul.  About 12 FFB kids running around.  And not one mother born Jewish!  I still shiver to think of Hashem’s mysterious ways.

Bill Landau posted on 12/12 at 04:09 PM.


My father was Jewish and, after getting beat up, lost jobs, and a few other bad things for being Jewish, I learned at an early age to forget the whole idea and not be Jewish.  Imagine my surprise when, as an adult, I started back into my Jewish heritage and was told I wasn’t Jewish and I had to convert. Good Grief!  So I converted into Reform.  Another good grief.  I would absolutely love to become Orthodox but for two things.  One is the Jewish Geography stuff and the other is I am intimidated by all the stuff I feel I should know and I don’t.  Perhaps they are part of the same thing. Sometimes it’s like listening to a foreign language.  I usually get around the Jewish Geography questions by side stepping and getting the person to start talking about themselves. “Oh Mrs. Levi, that is a beautiful broach.  Is there a story behind it?”  “Mrs. Harowitz, you challah is fantastic.  Do you give out your recipes?” I agree with those who say that those of us who feel this way are our own problem.  However, the feelings are still there regardless of whether they say anything about our self image or not. Knowing there are many others who feel the same is a comfort, it’s always good to know one isn’t the only one.

Avi posted on 12/12 at 05:20 PM.


I am a very proud convert, yet Jewish Geography is just plain rude! It matters not where a person is from, what shul or lack thereof, etc….Unless a person brings up the subject of their own experiences, be polite and keep your mouth shut. When I am asked, I respond that “this is a very personal issue and I don’t wish to respond. Thank you for respecting my wishes”.

Yonatan posted on 12/12 at 08:37 PM.


Devorah,
I stand in awe, in AWE, of those individuals who convert to Judaism or who become baalei teshuva.  Personally, I am an ‘FFB’, keeping kosher, Shabbat, etc. comes like second (or first?) nature to me, but the converts and baale t’shuva have taken upon themselves restrictions to their lives that they were not called upon to do. Yet they invariably learn the rules, regulations of observant Judaism, and very quickly delve into the depth of Torah.  I have the privilege of personally knowing people who have had no or little Jewish background, are now fully observant, and my feelings of admiration for them have no bounds. 
My heart goes out to those who shun, or worse, the convert or the ba’alei t’shuva.  May understanding come to them soon. May they learn from such incredible moral strength. 
Ruth Novice

Ruth Novice posted on 12/13 at 09:43 PM.


Get over it is right!Do you feel bad to admit to not being a graduate of an Ivy League school??By age 50 you should be way past this “high school” attitude.

Sue Boehm posted on 12/14 at 12:18 PM.


As a convert, I’ve also been a victim of ‘Jewish geography.’ I feel very left out of the conversation. But I find it mildly annoying and probably not as hurtful your article seems to imply. I find it really distressing that some of your readers wrote ‘Get over it.’ But I hope you take to heart that by sharing your story, you discovered a whole group of people who share your feelings on the subject and were glad you gave them voice.

Aliza Hausman posted on 12/15 at 01:42 AM.


As a convert, ‘Jewish geography’ has never really bothered me. When people ask me where I’m from, I tell them, and if they then ask where I went to school, if I knew so-and-so, what shul I went to, etc., I tell them simply that I didn’t grow up frum and I wasn’t really involved with the community. While I don’t usually share with people that I’m a convert, people have always been accepting and respectful that I’m now frum even if I once wasn’t.

While I think saying ‘get over it’ is a bit harsh, I do think the author is maybe investing too much in what other people think. I agree with others who have said that people’s questions are just their way of trying to get to know you and their way of showing interest. It doesn’t offend me that people want to know my background - in my non-Jewish days, I would have asked the same sorts of questions of new acquaintances - where are you from, what university did you go to, etc. Jewish geography is the same way - just specialised for the Jewish world.

Shaindy posted on 12/15 at 09:00 PM.


A lovely, thoughtful piece. But may I point out what you said about being homeless: “[N]ot being connected to a shul is about as socially correct as being homeless.”

As a person who happens to be single, living beyond walking distance to a shul and, therefore, separated from a frum environment, I understand what you mean. However, I find it sad that we must regard homelessness as “incorrect” when the cause of homelessness is so often not within a person’s control, especially in a time of foreclosure and job loss.

Bassie posted on 12/16 at 09:26 PM.


I wish you would not be sad at your past “deficiencies”.I on the other hand when either asking or hearing someone ask these questions get more intrigued by what sparked your interest to either go to shul or become observant.That is more fascinating than the past. Your present and future is what you should be proud of and it should bring a smile to you at what you have accomplished.Yasher Koach!!!!!!!

david posted on 12/26 at 10:34 AM.


maybe it’s the circles you mix in. i sometimes get a crazy feeling that i need some kind of ‘damascene conversion’ when i ‘decidded to become frum’, b/c the conversation will involve everyone sharing what made them frum, and i as an FFB have no interesting story about when i changed my life, so i feel very boring.

amanda posted on 08/20 at 01:52 PM.



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